kirbyditko's picture
Posted by: kirbyditko | October 29, 2012

Just Brood Baby!

Love this page! Just about the only Kirby FF I remember buying off the stands new---and it was his last full issue at that!

Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | October 29, 2012

A Regal For Eyes!

How would it be possible to resist such a beauty?

Pat, John, are you getting stampede enough already?

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | October 29, 2012

Nah...

...I'm just waiting for this Frankenstorm of comments to blow over.

But y'know, when I was a kid, I thought John Romita's issues of Fantastic Four were better than Kirby's. Apparently a number of other people did, too, since they sold better. Does that mean they WERE better? I guess it does in Odkin's World.

Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | October 29, 2012

I Don't Miss a Miss

I miss a Mr. Kirby.

I didn't like Romita's FF. It looked rushed, stiff and uninspired but I liked the John Buscema's first issues although I missed Kirby's art and stories more and more.

I still miss the King and it's gotten worse nowaday.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | October 29, 2012

We all miss Kirby...

...but do you see my point?

Frank Fosco's picture
Posted by: Frank Fosco | October 29, 2012

I resemble that remark

I did get a little wind baggy, eh?

Sorry.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | October 29, 2012

No problem.

Nothing better than a healthy debate! (And by that "Frankenstorm" remark I didn't mean you, buddy. I was just making a reference to the storm which is currently battering the eastern side of North America. My apologies if my joke didn't come off the way I intended.)

patrick ford's picture
Posted by: patrick ford | October 29, 2012

Point of View

Romita's issues of the FF looked just as good to me as anything else he did. The fact he took over the FF didn't make an impression on me because I had nothing invested in the FF. It was just another comic book to me. Marvel was publishing more Kirby than DC was in the early '70s. I picked up the reprints, and scored a load of back issues at a drive-in movie flea market, but the old Marvel stuff seemed corny/campy compared to incredible stories like THE PACT. Kirby would pun-ctuate his stories with broad Rube Goldberg style humor on occasion, but the stories and language on the whole were deeply felt and serious minded.

John S.'s picture
Posted by: John S. | October 29, 2012

Re: Point of View

The point is, better sales don't necessarily mean better quality and worse sales don't necessarily mean worse quality. As Allen Smith just pointed out in his EXCELLENT comment, Stan Lee's writing was sometimes quite bad -- commercial, but bad. And as he also said, if commercial success automatically equalled quality, that would mean Todd McFarlane's adjectiveless Spider-Man was far and away one of the greatest comics ever made. It would also mean that Star Wars was an infinitely better movie than 2001, that American Idol was one of the greatest television shows of all time and that Rihanna is vastly superior in talent to Mozart. Fortunately, none of those things are true and anyone who thinks they are is, very clearly, a colossal idiot. So, when it comes to defining good and bad, it's quite undeniable that different people have different opinions and alas, many people's tastes never grow beyond the most basic, adolescent level. So while you and I, Patrick, might hold Kirby's "wordsmithing" and Royer's inking in the highest regard, it's clear that some others don't share our opinions. And despite what they may say, their opinions ARE just that: THEIR OPINIONS.

Winokur's picture
Posted by: Winokur | October 29, 2012

Hunk Larken

Sorry to divert from Romita v. Kirby -- but, "Hunk Larken"? I did some digging and found that that character was created before Magneto and so is thought of as a sort of "original Magneto"...? But with his helmet, etc, this one looks like it was intended by Kirby to be the character who was later retconned to be called Max Eisenhardt /Magnus/Erik Lehnsherr. Was the character's appearance in this two part story retconned to be this Hunk Larken character?

Krackles's picture
Posted by: Krackles | October 30, 2012

Hunk in Tongue, Woe Man!

Hunk Larken?
I thought somebody was poking fun at Erik Larsen, LOL

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