Prisoner #1

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kirbyditko
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I just saw on Facebook that photocopies of the entire 17 pages form Kirby's Prisoner #1 are on Ebay! maybe someone associated w/ this site or the Kirby Museum can buy them for scanning to this site! (I would, but I'm a little tapped out at the moment.

Here's the EBay link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jack-Kirby-The-Prisoner-complete-UNPUBLISHED-17-...

kctobyjoe
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Prisoner

I *bought* the lot; lets see how good the images are

I will GLADLY contribute scans as long as I can meet the criteria

I see my scanner/copier/fax does up to 1200 dpi but I forget the FORMAT the group needs

Tom???

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Prisoners photocopies

May make sense to get good scans of these. 1200dpi is great, otherwise 600dpi is fine. DNG (Digital Negative) is the best format however most scanning applications can't do this. VueScan software can. See the Kirby museum for more specs: http://kirbymuseum.org/oada. Files can be sent through http://www.wetranfer.com to email address tomkraft@whatifkirby.com.

I owe most of these pages at full size, 11x17. Another seller is selling these pages from Greg Theakston's stash. I image at some point they will all be listed and I'll have them all...if I don't get outbidded.

The original art was for sale on ComicLink but I never has the chance to scan the pages before they sold. I would love to find out who purchased them and try to get scans... Let me know if anyone did or know who did. ComicLink's buyer's privacy does not allow them to tell me.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you, Tom

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Scans from ComicLink auction

Tom, I happened to download the complete set of OA scans from the ComicLink auction when it was up for sale -- I think they are more like 300x300, but still pretty nice. I don't think the OA differs much from the photocopies, as it also was uninked pencils on many of the pages. Can send these along if you're interested.

And I just looked back at ComicLink to confirm, the OA pages went unsold in that last auction: bidding reached $24,750 for the set of 17 but the seller's reserve wasn't met.

-- Jay

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Re: Scans from ComicLink

To bad I didn't get the chance to archive these. 300 is good but not archival for the museum. I also would need to get permission from ComicLink to accept their scans even if its coming from you. The Museum doesn't accept scans unless they are given or taken with permission. I hope someday at a con somewhere, we'll have the chance to archive these.

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Re: Scans from ComicLink

Tom, I admire your caution -- I'm a lawyer myself -- and if 300 dpi isn't useful for your purposes, that's fair enough. But that's an unusual view of copyright, considering that generally (and tragically, as has been well-documented) it was Kirby's publishers who retained the copyright to almost all of his work, and at least for the Marvel and DC stuff they still control rights to the images. Maybe in this case copyright reverted to the Kirby family, since the Prisoner series was never published, but that would be a rare exception.

Beyond that, technically no one else has the right to reproduce the artwork, and it doesn't transfer with the OA even where that is legitimately bought and sold. As I'm sure you know, what you're doing here should be protected as "fair use" for non-profit research and educational purposes, and I imagine ComicLink's and/or the seller's use of scans to promote resale is also acceptable practice. But I don't see how an OA owner (or middleman) could claim ownership of their scan where they don't hold copyright to the underlying image, nor how an owner of OA or OA photocopies could grant you any rights they don't have -- in either case, I think how and where the image ends up gets used is a more important legal issue than where the copy came from.

I only dabble in this stuff, not my main area, and could well be wrong; if so, I'll have to rethink things like, say, posting a nice hi-res Heritage Auctions scan to my web site after buying a piece from them. And as I said, it does show admirable caution and courtesy on your part, regardless of the legalities.

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Prisoner #1

I will do the best I can with what I receive

I saw that Thor #134 (?) 17 page set of scans floating around here a while back and saw it on an auction site too; dunno much beyond that; I can't seem to locate the URL I *thought* I had bookmarked!

I use EPSON SCAN and will need to ferret out (thanks Jack...I love that word...from O.M.A.C. among others) the settings it offers. I rarely use anything >300dpi JPEG; I usually scan stuff for digital proof I paid a bill or whatever

OH WELL!

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Prison scans et al...

Epson Scan allows me to save up to 1220 dpi as : JPEG; BITMAP; TIF; PDF; Print image Matching II(JPEG) Print Image Matching II (TIFF) and plain old TIFF

There are a few other settings I have NO IDEA about; someone who has this proggie would need to nursemaid me as far as getting the BEST out of the scan and be compliant with what the site NEEDS

THIS is all I have and as far as *I* know there is no professional scanning facilities in my area that might fit these needs AND at a reasonable price if not on at all.

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THOR #134

http://www.comiclink.com/Default.asp

talks about THOR #134